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Pretty sure that this, now rebranded the Rose, is the sister pub of a boozer of the same name on Essex Road in Islington and while it's shiny and a vector of gentrification, it isn't half bad. Ales such as Southwark's London Pale Ale are well kept and the pizzas decent enough. The beer garden is also massive.
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Now rebranded as The Rose Pub and Kitchen. Relevant as the changes are likely to mean some of the reviews of the Hobgoblin are now redundant (whether changes are for better or worse is still an open question!)
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Disappointed to have been ignored at a relatively empty bar: three bar staff were working. One in the middle of serving, which was fine, one was busy chatting to a couple of customers at the bar while I was quite clearly waiting. The third served another customer who had blatantly just walked up to the bar while I had been waiting several minutes.
Also annoying that half the pub has been turned into a 'dining room'. If you managed to get a seat but are not eating you get turfed out to make way for people who want to eat. Why not just do what other pubs do and make food available to all seats throughout the pub rather than disturbs paying customers half way through their night?
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Was closed (hopefully just for renovations) last time I checked in January 2015. Hopefully it will open again soon, as London can't afford to lose anymore pubs.
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Ale is terrible and off in most cases, sadly this pub has gone down hill. Lager is ok and staff are not that bad and The Pub Inside is clean. But what kills this place is the Beer Garden in Summer as it's full of Local Drug Dealers and Addicts, they normally loiter in the Rear Corner of the Beer Garden.
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More than decent boozer...wee place across the road does jerk chicken...mmmm
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Good pub, would be a great one if the ale was more reliable. As it is you have to take your first pint back to the bar every other visit because it's off.
boone - 27 Aug 2010 13:46 |
We popped in. All I can say is believers in miasmatic theory should definitely avoid this pub.
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I agree with other reviewers that the atmosphere here is good, but the beer is awful! On various occasions I've tried all the lagers on offer in the vain hope of spotting a bubble, but no - they're all flat. And expensive. Last night I pointed it out to the landlord, who just poured my pint into another glass and topped it up. But it was still flat! For �3.30! Definitely the worst pint in New Cross.
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good pub with a welcoming atmosphere and being right opposite new cross gate station have missed a few trains because of the excellent beer. a mixed clintele when i've been there witha few pre match millwall fans mixing in well with the local student population from goldsmiths. tv screens to watch sport if you want to or just chill out over a pint with your newspaper. some pubs you can walk into and get a positive feel about. this is definitely one of them.
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Much as I adore a pint or two of Hobgoblin, I must confess I find the pub a bit and miss. It can be great, but it can also be... not great.
That said, it seems to cater best to groups, and serves its mostly-Goldsmiths clientele (which I am not) very well, with excellent prices, Wii, huge beer garden and a good variety of things going on during the week. Sunday's quiz night is always entertaining, whether you're playing or not.
The ales are good (usually 4 available: Hobgoblin, Landlord, Pedigree and IPA) should you happen upon one of the staff who know how to pour one (it shouldn't have a Guinness head, guys!)
From night to night, it's never easy to tell whether it'll be a quiet, old-fashioned boozer or trying to be a student club night, complete with lacklustre DJs.
Of a weeknight, the pub serves a great Thai menu - in range and quality - and does a roast on Sundays, which I would hope has improved since they introduced it, if only to compete with the Amersham Arms.
Try it, by all means... have a great night, if that's the way the Hob is that night... but have a backup plan, just in case.
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Probably the only pub in New Cross worth visiting.
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I discovered this place as a fresher two years ago and fell in love with it. Come back this September though and I was totally shocked. It used to be a cool student hang out, with friendly locals now though its full of arrogant scumbags getting their fix of RnB & dance music(???). Toilets are grim and hygenically neglected, except by the hords of chav's blatantly doing Cocaine in them, its like a flu epidemic with synchronized sniffing. Most don't even bother to use the cubical to do it in. Tried the food, its actually got worse. Only saving grace is the staff, who are friendly and happy to engage in small talk and the garden.
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Great pub under new management, open late, great vibe in the back garden where everyone sits nowadays. Staff can be a bit slow but are getting better, also its quite expensive compared to other pubs in the area. �3.20 for a pint of decent lager.
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the old woman has gone,thank god,and the new landlord seems like a laugh, his shirts definately are! this pub has changed for the better over the past few months...heated garden equipped for smokers, new tables and chairs, thai food is served in the evening, open till 1am every night so you don't have to go elsewhere once you're comfortable, different events every night of the week (poker and Wii nights being my two favourites)most of the old staff seem to have gone and have been replaced by people who look as if they are enjoying themselves and that smile. this place is probably the best pub on the stretch at the moment and i challenge anybody to say otherwise!
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Have had many happy nights in here with uni folk. It is also a very nice place to come in the day for a quiet lunch, infact it is the only pub in New Cross I would chose to go to if I was alone.
Nice staff who are accomadating with food orders. Food is usually good pub standard and served reasonably quickly. Drinks are usually fine. Never had any problems here. Only complaint is more reguarly than it should the card machine breaks down and you have to get cash out to pay, but thats technology and not really the staffs fault.
anonymous - 7 Sep 2007 16:29 |
This place is to review the pub NOT must i add Johnnys bloody flower stall! If thats all we have to go by then i think the place is doomed! The pubs ok, the beers alright and the staff could cheer up abit but all in all not a bad place. i'd rather walk an extra couple of minits down the road to this place then pop next door to the Tavern.
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Now they've installed a woodwork factory in the back conservatory coupled with the flowershop round the side, this pub really is on the way to becoming a complete carpentry/botany/inebriation experience.
Old woman still there, though not everytime I go in there anymore.
Staff great, student discount great, food not great, beer unbelievably bad, garden now has massive metal tent in it that looks like something the owner bought on impulse.
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I rather like this place, it's cheap without being grotty. Reminds me of being a student. Set up for the "alternative" crowd, whatever that means; no bad thing as far as I'm concerned. Nice tunes, and I had no problem with the beer when I visited.
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I have a lot of fond memories of this pub, especially the time they let about 150 of us take over the beer garden all dressed in school uniform last summer. It's not exactly quality, but its friendly and you can't knock the 20% student discount. Plus, the beer garden in the summer always has an advantage over pubs without one! I also like this pub because it's a 5 minute journey from my house (and was round the corner from my school/6th form).
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One of the most disgusting pints of ale I've ever had, well, actually I didn't finish it. I left after a few sips and hopped on the bus to the Shakespeare's Head in Holborn. If it was run by people who cared and knew how to look after ale, this could be the best (only decent) pub in New Cross. As it is, my "local" will contiune to be a half hour bus ride away!
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Terrible beer, but cheap with a student discount and the garden's really nice in the summer.
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I like this pub because its near my house and in the summer the garden is great. However in the winter there isnt much to recommend it as the woman who runs it sits to the right of the bar dominating the place with her weird old friends and generally ruining the atmosphere.
The beer is awful, but the service is friendly so you take your pick, good student discount (20%).
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oh, and also the ale was off.
anonymous - 29 Jun 2005 14:22 |
This pub has great potential. A sparse crowd of students and locals, and ales from the Wychwood brewery. The conservatery is a plus.
Unfortunately I cannot recommend this pub as we decided to only stay for a pint due to the rude, pathetic attitude of one of the barmen - a man obviously not happy in life.
anonymous - 29 Jun 2005 14:20 |
well that was then. the hob has no jukebox, and all the bar staff are friendly and welcoming.
anonymous - 19 Apr 2005 16:14 |
I dislike this pub immensely. Haven't been in it for about six months, but the last time the bar staff were arrogant bastards, the juke box was shite and the beer was stinking.
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It's all things to all people. Sad old buggers in some corners, the bright young things / pretenous students oF Glodsmith's in others. Had a nice couple of pints there last night with the rain coming in through the conservatory roof and stereolab playing on some speakers.
Slight run-down, edge-of-town, sod it, let's have a laugh feel to the place.
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I was reading some of the earlier reviews reckon they either they are getting it confused with a different place, or The Hobgoblin has got its act together. Big garden with lots of seats, and a conservatory if the weather's dodgy, dj's, food and screens playing video. Nothing else like it in New Cross. NOT pretending to be a club nor is it a sad-man boozer.
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Such a normal looking pub from the front has such a lush garden out back, I'm sure most people must be totally oblivious to it. They appear to have dj's playing music most evenings. Very chilled & friendly - dj's don't seem like the usual over eager ego driven junkies that you come to expect from the area ( they actually have several girls playing - more of that needed !!! ) Heard lots of my favourite back catalogue electronica & lounge which was rather nice ! It was good to listen to music quite loud & still be able to hold a conversation.
Bit miffed that I don't live round the corner on Jerningham Rd anymore !
Katie J - 9 Jul 2004 12:46 |
Great garden - only garden in the area with music & food ! Well worth checking when the weather is good.
Beatsville - 30 Jun 2004 17:48 |
I remember this pub from when it was called 'The Rose'. Sadly there are none of the original New Cross Boozers left. As it now is, full of Students and the occasional dodgy Sarf Landan Geezer. Still have my student card from 8 years ago, so occasionally pop in to take advantage of the 20% off between 2 and 8!
adamafurness - 1 May 2004 10:34 |
Pikey, dirty pub with sticky tables & over flowing ash trays. Full of students making a watery pint last all evening. Good garden & bbq's in the summer
esther - 10 Feb 2004 14:54 |
Grim chain pub. Full of the dislocated and the dispossesed. Started off well after refurbishment, but has gone down hill.
Jeremy Thonston - 19 Sep 2003 14:44 |
Nice. Beer was resonable. Had two of the best looking barmaids ever seen behind a bar.
Rob - 18 Sep 2003 10:06 |
Student boozer. Struck me as being the whitest pub in New Cross on my visit there...
Darryl - 11 Aug 2003 13:39 |
a great little boozer for students, also a great atmosphere for watching big screen sports stuff. always something on the telly and the screen comes out for the "BIG" internationals (footy world cup, Rugby 6 nations, Cup finals etc). the landords comedy signes about the unwelcome elements also make a visit worthwhile.. outdoor bbq's in the summer a treat also..
ched fastly - 23 Jul 2003 17:48 |
Conveniently close to Goldsmiths College and New Cross Gate train station but it's quite grotty. There is a strange revolving snack dispenser by the bar holding cans of dried and salted extra large sweetcorn. Ugh.
Victoria - 30 Jun 2003 13:53 |
Brodie's pub is fantastic. Great people, great working class food, and relaxed atmosphere. Traveling there as visiting Yank students when it was the Rose Inn (97), Brodie was a great bloke to my wife and myself, and the ale was spot on. The patio is brilliant (esp when Brodie grills), the jukebox plays Peter & The Test Tube Babies, and the working class regulars always have a story to go with a game of darts. Highly recommended so long as you aren't an "ugly American" and have a passable knowledge of Palace football ;) It ain't The Ritz, but a guaranteed good time.
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the hob is great place to go. especially if you're of university age considering Goldsmiths College is just round the corner.
kelly - 23 Mar 2003 01:18 |
Hobgoblin are the only decent pub chain that I know. They have started to look themselves go down hill here in New Cross though. When it opened it had really good Thai food which they have now stopped doing. The loos are vandalised. The best feature is the patio garden in the summer.
james wild - 13 Mar 2003 19:30 |
