The Red Lion, Shirley

Well the managers of managed pubs get given their beer from the people that own the pub and don't pay rent. Whereas Leased pubs have to pay rent and buy their beer at elevated prices as they are contractually bound to do so by the lease. Therefore many leased pubs have to charge a higher rate for the beer they serve.

Yes the sign outside may be considered anti-social but no-one has been harmed by reading that sign-unlike the violence that I have witnessed at the other pubs I mentioned. I have PERSONALLY called the police to attend the sarrers since it has reopened as I saw members of the sarrers' staff being asaulted by a group of their punters and I have seen both the police and ambulances attend that pub on many an occasion-so no it is not libelous because the perfect defence aganst libel is the truth and I have witnessed the trouble at that pub first hand! The plume is also a place that is no stranger to violence, because a gang beat someone up in there not long ago. Perhaps we should just agree to disagree and you drink at your pubs that I believe are potentially dangerous and I'll drink at the lion which you feel is pompous and over priced-problem solved?

18 Mar 2008 12:45

The Red Lion, Shirley

I could only wish to be the landlord or a staff member at such a fine establishment! After your previos posting I printed it off and showed it to the landlord and he was exstatic about your review in that it confirms to anyone who reads this board that he has a no chav policy. So he would like me to pass on his thanks for informing all the readers of this forum that they can come along and enjoy a brilliant pint in what is the last chav free zone in Shirley.

21 Nov 2007 14:00

The Saracens Head, Shirley

The building now looks really good, the inside is a bit wine barrish, but not too yuppy like. But (and it's a big but) I took one step inside and was confronted by a load of screams and shouts as the bouncers were being goaded by the punters. The trouble makers were removed after a scuffle and then proceeded to throw bottles at the staff and the building. This pub could easily be the best pub in Shirley but it is let down by the crap beer and the hooligans they let in!

19 Nov 2007 15:06