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Beernfoodbuff - 12 Jan 2017 23:02
On the 29th December 2016 you wrote in a comment here that you hold a level 5 scores on the doors, "We have passed on all fronts with 5 scores on the doors and 20/20 for the cellar", and so it is rediculous to claim that you have never made such a claim. Moreso because you are currently proudly displaying a five star rating on your Facebook page as well!
Hygiene ratings are published for a reason. Those with small children or the elderly and those with food allergies, anyone with particular vulnerability, would what to know before choosing where they eat that they are in safe hands. Dishonesty on such a matter puts their well being at risk and is therefore scandalous.

With regard to legal advice, I am a lawyer so I can provide the information you require. Thus far there has been no occurence whereby any lawful or civil transgression has occured. There has also, certainly on my part, been no abuse of the forum guidelines within our discussion.
May I respectfully ask that you remove the erroneous 5 star rating from your Facebook page for the sake of public safety and refrain from advertising such in future until such time as you may actually merit it?

Beernfoodbuff - 11 Jan 2017 07:47
Well, goes to show by the previous people they are people who lie and twist things to rubbish a good business, what a shame they have to attack people personally.
These posts have been reported for removal and we are taking legal advise on these post, and no where have we posted we have 5 score on the doors, Just to update we have now signed a 5 year deal on this pub and we intend staying and welcome old and new customers and a great thank you to the regulars for there continue support including the old boys club who comes in on a Monday and drink superb real ale.
Don't forget real six piece Jazz Band every third Thursday lunch time of the month, raffle and good food and the xmas draw to be pulled, remember £450.00 first prize tickets still available. Look forward to seeing all the regulars for the tramp jazz. Also the Roasts available all week now, and a carvery will be available at the end of the month, watch this space.

proprietor59 - 9 Jan 2017 11:45
With great respect, I have not made any personal attacks on anybody. I have made observations and given my opinion on the pub and it's offering as it appeared to me when I visited which is perfectly acceptable.
I have also replied to your further comment in order to rectify some misleading statements made by yourself, the 5 star hygiene rating for example which is really a 1 star rating, and to querie about Tripadvisor.
Interestingly, within your response to my querie regarding the King and Queen in Edenbridge you appear to admit that you do have a connection. Therefore I can only assume you have been posting fake reviews of your own businesses on Tripadvisor. Worse, there are bad reviews for competing businesses in Edenbridge. Out of 11 reviews only two concern pubs with no obvious connection.
I have at no point outrightly said you are a liar but the posts you yourself have provided here speak for themselves and there do seem to be issues with them. You claimed to have a 5 star hygiene rating, which you do not and you admit to being in possession of celler certificates for the King and Queen in Edenbridge which raises the question of the validity of a number of Tripadvisor reviews. Whist you claim to have celler certificates for the George and Dragon you omit to name the awarding body, even when given the opportunity to do so.
Beernfoodbuff - 9 Jan 2017 10:04
I agree with beernfoodbuff...absolute balony....but having personally known the proprietor from previous establishments he has ran... and quite literally ran away from them too when the going got tough ... i feel for his partner having been a victim myself first hand of his atrocities ... and she will finally realise what a low scum of a person he really is.
Restrictionman - 6 Jan 2017 20:58
Well seems this person persists to try and make me a liar, A AUDIT is done by the brewery not CAMRA, or Cask Marque, the King and Queen is a Shepherd Neame pub and they Audit the beer, cask and draught and score on all things, they got 20/20 on all beers, I have the certificate.
I don't know what your problem is and this is not the place to argue, I suggest you show your face at the George and Dragon and discuss it with the proprietors, not the management.
I think you have a problem with the pub, people or a disgruntled customer or employee, all these posts have been reported for removal due to the fact you are attacking people on a personal basis which is against the rules of this site.
I think we have nothing to prove to you or anyone else, if the pub survives all good and well if idiots like you slag of the pubs then they will lose a good local, and to set the record straight I have it on good authority that we are staying at the pub for the foreseeable future. As for CAMRA no representative from them have visited the pub to taste or test the ales as far as I know, but please take it up with the me. I have plans for the premises and a few changes will be made for the better, I do apologise for the rant but again people have grudges and have no interest except to try and wreck the business and the pub. For the regulars and the new customers I and the team welcome you and don't forget there are nibbles on the bar and do food all day and a great Sunday roast, have a wonderful new year and a prosperous one.
proprietor59 - 4 Jan 2017 21:44
The recent advertised scores on the doors rating on the council website is actually just 1, it says they have little confidence in management and major improvement is needed, which is pretty much what I said.

The audit you attempt to describe is a Cask Marque audit. The only place in Tudeley with a genuine Cask Marque award is the Poacher and Partridge. Again it's quite clear when you check the cask marque website. They work hard to earn that and it's wrong when other pubs falsely claim to have it. The final give away is that you clearly have no idea what the audit is about and when it is carried out.

Finally, I looked on Tripadviser. Are you Paul C and did you previously run a pub called the King and Queen? I wonder how many good reviews on there are real, probably not many judging by this.

Beernfoodbuff - 2 Jan 2017 07:57
Answer to the previous post, it seems people want to ruin a business by posting things like this, yes we are a member and we sell a good quantity of ales and have a large turn over of beer.
We are installing another two hand pumps, we do have a audit every month and to test temperature, quality, and cleanliness of the cellar, we also have a environmental heath inspection as ale is classed as food.
We have passed on all fronts with 5 scores on the doors and 20/20 for the cellar, what a shame these people post to try and ruin your business, this last post has been reported. Please if you have a request please tell the staff and we will solve any problems with our service tell us and if satisfied please tell others.
Have a wonderful new year and support your local and the ales they sell.
proprietor59 - 29 Dec 2016 22:13
Being a member of CAMRA means nothing more than you paid a general subscription. I suspect the balony about quality audits is a nonsense because the ale here is totally rank. I really don't think the people running this pub have a clue what decent beer is!

I also would agree with a previous comment, the place looks grubby, it looks like some attempt has been made to clean up but it hasn't really touched the sides, I wouldn't dare eat here.

On the whole I rate the place as decidedly lacklustre and run down, shame because it's a nice building in a great location, just needs to be in better hands I think.
Beernfoodbuff - 30 Nov 2016 23:21
We are now serving Sunday lunches with a choice of four meats, and a vegetarian option and vegan and gluten free.
We also are doing a steak meal for two and a bottle of wine for £29.99 , with all the trimming.s On the £28th October we are holding a fancy dress and Halloween party with a fire work display, so children welcome and the parents, both with best dressed prizes. We will have live music and raffle prizes and other surprises, all welcome local and regulars.
We are now taking bookings for Xmas and party's catered for up to and including Xmas day, please book to avoid disappointment.

proprietor59 - 26 Sep 2016 15:07
We've recently taken over the George and Dragon, We always have on a varied choice three cask ales, we are members of CAMRA,
The cellar has had complete refurbishment of all equipment. lines and cooling systems.
We have monthly independent quality control audits and have since taken over had scores of 20/20.

We hope to expand our range of real ales and have more pumps in the near future.

We hope to see old and new customers and greet you with a warm welcome.

Check our Facebook page for events updates and offers, and like us.
proprietor59 - 15 Sep 2016 21:35
Beer is rank. I recommend only drinking stuff out of bottles here! Didn't fancy trying the food, partly cos the place looked so grubby and partly cos I looked at tripadvisor. Went elsewhere.
Beermeister76 - 18 Aug 2016 05:37
The pub now is a free house and the new people taking over soon, new them from a previous pub and they know how to keep beer and great food, don't miss the Sunday roast.
beerdrinker1959 - 9 Jan 2016 23:20
A very nice country pub in an intriguing old building, well worth an explore. The ale was kept well and wlthough we didn't eat, the menu looked nice and reasonably priced. Very much worth a visit
Buster_M - 30 Oct 2012 15:04
Has seen a few changes here and stopped from time to time but never felt anything was above average..
Lots of space inside and fair car park.
Last occasion our driver was charged 3.00 for a lemonade and lime
so allow for this in your budget.
kisstaker - 13 Sep 2010 20:48
This Greene King pub occupies a rather splendid old building, especially the main weatherborded section. Inside, there is plenty of ancient timberwork in the side seating area to the left of the door, front bar (with pool table) and cosy main bar. There is also a dining room beyond and a decent beer garden out back. Good value bar food menu. Three handpumps plus one of those gimmicky new IPA dispensers. Decent pint of Abbot at 3.10.
rpadam - 31 May 2010 17:31
I'd heard good reports of this place, which I hadn't visited for some time - so called in the other day. I can't believe how different it was from my memories of it - and much nicer. It's deceptively roomy inside, with several different drinking areas, and a sizeable restaurant at the end. The main bar area is cosy and traditional, with a woodburner (still going on a cool late April evening). Nice homely feel, with plenty of locals round the bar, but not unwelcoming.
The beer is Greene King, which won't please everybody, but I'm very happy with a well-kept pint of IPA - which this was. Didn't sample the food, but it looked OK, and seems remarkably good value.
Altogether, somewhere I shall be visiting again before too long.
earlydrinker - 6 May 2010 14:08
This pub without a doubt has to be one of the friendliest pubs in this area.The meals we had (and there where twelve of us)where all delicious,there was a bit of a wait for the food but we where advised of this as all the food is cooked fresh for each order and there already lots of people there eating (in the resturant,bar area and the beautiful garden),while we where waiting the gents had a few games of pool on the FREE pool table and we where able to relax around the log fire.A fantastic afternoon was spent in this very friendly pub,with extremely friendly and proffessional staff and fantastic food.We will deffinately be back again and would reccomend this lovely place to anyone.
honestharry - 2 May 2010 09:31
Intrigued by LDW's reports (we obviously drink on the same circuit, LDW!) I popped in here the other day for a midweek pint and sandwich. Many good things: nice building; made the best of a decent little garden; dog friendly; pool table; well kept beer; EXCELLENT (and I mean excellent) home made soup; reasonable (ish - rather plastic ham) sarnies; lots of footpaths. So well worth a visit and I will definitely go back. Some not quite so inspiring things: Greene King only (so only Abbot and IPA on pump, fine for me me because I like IPA but Suffolk ales in Kent ... pffft); and some of the most clueless bar staff I have encountered this side of the Special Bus! But overall I liked it and it was a solid 7. Whether the staff could cope with a crowd on a Sunday lunch is another matter ...
Major_Bill - 9 Apr 2010 17:53
Recent report from a friend (yes, hearsay evidence I know) suggests that things have gone downhill again.

Another beautiful pub that needs rescuing from the dead hand of the chains. If the landlord could be allowed to make a living, this could be a nice pub again.
LDW - 15 Mar 2010 11:32
This used to be my regular watering hole, but has been through a troubled time in reecent years; constant changes of landlord tell their own story.
However, as of now (October 09) it's in the hands of an enterprising young couple who deserve to succeed.
The IPA was beautifully kept - the second pint even better than the first. :-)
The food was interesting and tasty, and cooked exactly to order with loving care. Not cheap, but good and fresh and not just your pub staples. For two of us lunch was twenty-odd quid.
Recommended - under current management, at least!
LDW - 11 Oct 2009 01:27

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